Александр Сопин. Опыт выращивания винограда в Подмосковье

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Здравствуйте,коллеги!
Удивительная осень продолжается.
На сегодня по октябрю такие цифры:

Норма среднемесячной температуры октября: 5.6°. Фактическая температура месяца по данным наблюдений: 8.6°. Отклонение от нормы: +3.0°.
Норма суммы осадков в октябре: 71 мм. Выпало осадков: 31 мм. Эта сумма составляет 44% от нормы.
Самая низкая температура воздуха (-0.6°) была 9 октября. Самая высокая температура воздуха (16.3°) была 7 октября.

А вот в почве сегодня оптимизм:сказался теплый вчерашний день:
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Пользуюсь погодой и максимально ускоряю косметическую обрезку винограда.
Сегодня много работы было с сортами Э.Свенсона - Сомерсет сидлис,Сен-Пепин и Свенсон ред.
Но основная масса работы выполнена,осталось нарезать черенки с лишних лоз.
Завтра перехожу на очередной ряд.
Все по плану...
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Здравствуйте,коллеги!
Как сказала бы Алиса из "Страны чудес": Дальше все чудесаче и чудесаче... :) .
Погода стоит -то совсем не октябрьская - все теплее и теплее: сегодня на даче было +17*С!!!
В почве тоже интересные в октябре процессы:
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Режу лозу начисто:сегодня прошел ряд:Супага,Аладдин,Альфа и привитые на Альфу Сомерсет сидлис и Флора...
Везде лоза вызревшая,отличного качества.
Готовлю к дальнейшему укрытию.
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Сообщение александр-зеленоград »

Здравствуйте,коллеги!
Природа в Подмосковье продолжает вытворять чудеса.
Вот статистика за первую половину октября 2018 г.

Норма среднемесячной температуры октября: 5.6°. Фактическая температура месяца по данным наблюдений: 9.3°. Отклонение от нормы: +3.7° (РЕКОРД!).
Норма суммы осадков в октябре: 71 мм. Выпало осадков: 31 мм. Эта сумма составляет 44% от нормы.
Самая низкая температура воздуха (-0.6°) была 9 октября. Самая высокая температура воздуха (18.4°) была 15 октября.

Вследствие таких аномально высоких температур и минимальная суточная температура почвы моего участка вчера утром была такой:
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Наблюдаем даже рост в верхних горизонтах.

Обрезка,тем не менее,идет по плану.
Вчера начисто обрезаны Арочный,Илья,Аромат Хасана,Илья.
Сегодня - очередной трудовой день по этой теме :) ...
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Re: Александр Сопин. Опыт выращивания винограда в Подмосковье

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Сообщение александр-зеленоград »

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На излете золотая осень,впереди понижение температуры и дожди...
Сегодня у меня на участке был приличный :unknown: заморозок:вода в ведрах замерзла.
Тем не менее,погода днем замечательная и работается с охоткой.
В почве утром так:
IMG_4665.JPG
Сказывается морозная погода по ночам...

Обрезка идет своим чередом.
Сегодня обрезаны под формировку следующего года и пришпилены к земле:Юодупе,Зилга,Айвенго,Сувенир Васьковского,Эстер,Розовый Тимур,Луиза Свенсон,Виолетта,Кристалл,Спартан сидлис,Самородок.
Обрезаны вчерне Вэлиант и Агат донской.
Осталась корректировка виноградных кустов,ранее подвергшихся косметической обработке и последующая нарезка черенков этих сортов.
Надеюсь успеть до ненастья...
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Сообщение александр-зеленоград »

Здравствуйте,коллеги!
Вчера ударным трудом :yes: отметил конец рабочей недели.Но неделя обрезки винограда еще продолжается и,наконец-то,появился свет в конце тоннеля:осталось начисто обрезать около десятка кустов.
А вчера начисто обрезаны и пришпилены к земле(готовы к укрытию) Красотка,Алешенькин,Коринка русская,Тимур,Ладанный-2,Супер-Экстра,Талисман-1,Флора(корнесобственная).Везде вызревание лозы отличное(лето и осень в этом году теплые).
Сегодня планирую очередной транш :) черенков...

Почва продолжает остывать.
Вчера утром было так:
IMG_4666.JPG
Посмотрим,что произошло после сегодняшней морозной ночи...
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Сообщение александр-зеленоград »

Здравствуйте,коллеги!
Как бы не длилась золотая осень,но всему приходит конец: явный уклон к снижению температуры воздуха и почвы принял свой обычный характер.
На сегодня в почве так:
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Выходные дни провели в упорном труде по обрезке винограда.
В итоге начисто подрезаны и уложены на землю: Дублянский,ПГ-55,Новый русский,Продюсер,Циравас аграа,Маркетт,Вэлиант.
Вэлиант доставил особенно много хлопот:куст сильнорослый,лоза вызрела отлично,черенки тоже добротные.

Остались в работе:Сомерсет сидлис,Сен-Пепин и Агат донской.
Это уже - семечки:основное подготовлено к зимовке.
Потихоньку приглядываюсь к винограду в теплице:там осень естественная :) и резать лозу в уютной обстановке очень приятно....
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Сообщение александр-зеленоград »

Здравствуйте,коллеги!
Моросит мелкий дождь,температура воздуха не выше+5*С,холодно и мрачно.
В таких условиях пришлось переместиться в теплицу и там продолжить обрезку винограда.
Все лозы хорошо вызрели,формировки получаются оптимистичными.
Будем посмотреть :) ...
А в почве ОГ идут процессы охлаждения:
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Глубокая осень...
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Сообщение александр-зеленоград »

Здравствуйте,коллеги!
Погода окончательно испортилась - сеет непрерывный холодный дождь при температуре воздуха не выше +2*С....
В таких условиях в ОГ работать невозможно и передислоцировался в теплицу.
Там благодать - тепло и сухо :) .
Веду обрезку тепличных сортов винограда:вся лоза вызрела до кончиков.
А в почве ОГ сегодня так:
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Постепенно уходим в климатическую норму...
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Re: Александр Сопин. Опыт выращивания винограда в Подмосковье

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Здравствуйте,коллеги!
Сегодня утром около нуля и в воздухе изредка кружатся снежинки.
В таких условиях почва быстро остывает:
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Поэтому перешел работать в теплицу.При обрезке Гармонии КЛА и Академика обнаружил пасынковый урожай:одну гроздь Академика и 3 грозди Гармонии КЛА:
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Мелочь,а приятно :) ...
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